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A possible way of limiting bloat would be to have a design like this {{Help navigation/sandbox}}

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Its pretty simple. Help: Contents, Noticeboards, Frequently asked questions (FAQs), Reference desks and The Missing Manual are changed to links at the top of the navbox. The rest of the navbox is much the same. This is simpler and might be more newbie friendly.

Any views or comments? --Jules (Mrjulesd) 21:54, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Good idea,,,,,do it,,,,not many will see this (7 watchers), I say do it see if anyone complains from seeing it on pages. But we should change the "help contents" to help menu link...as the help contents is in every page already. --Moxy (talk) 22:24, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

 Done. --Jules (Mrjulesd) 20:35, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

I've moved some links out of the left column, into the list, replacing them with plain text. The reason is that these weren't links to overview pages, they were links to pages that were comparable to other pages in the list.

Besides parallelism, the reason for the move is that a lot of users are going to be tempted to dive right into specifics (the list), rather than (they think) go to an intermediate page. If they take this approach, they're going to miss a specific page that could be useful.

Note: I didn't add or remove any links, I just moved some links to other places on the page.

-- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:03, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

I will be reverting the change...not sure why you would not have the parent articles linked in the left side as per the norm (all links explained in article)], Contributing to Wikipedia (main how to pages

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